We had our Ideas Cafe discussion this evening on whether assassination missions can be justified.
We started off with some definitions with Ted's help. Assassinations always have a target, usually a politically prominent person. It is different from a terrorist act where the purpose is to kill and create fear with no particular target person in mind.
Richard started off with the premise that killing another human for any reason cannot be justified. It therefore follows that a planned and premeditated killing by assassination is definitely not justified.
Mano said that the rule of law must be followed. Someone cannot just decided that another person should be assassinated and go do it. The act itself needs to be judged by laws applicable or at least in the international court.
Ted felt that assassinations can be justified in extreme cases but all other avenues must be explored first. If the Iranian president is to be a target of assassination because of his claims of using nuclear weapons on Israel, then at least we should bomb the nuclear facilities first.
Shula then pointed out that in bombing the nuclear facilities, some other unnamed person (and likely more than one) will likely die as a result. Which means that these people are being hurt because they are nameless just so that the real source of the issue, the president, is spared.
Dan pose the example that if he is the dictator of country and he makes his own rules that allows him to mistreat his people, then there is not much point to judge him by the law of his country. The United Nations as a rule are reluctant to get into the internal affairs of countries.
There is also the issue of the international court not being participated by every country. Is it a truly international court if important countries like the US do not agree to be part of it? Why should anyone be subjected to a court system that he had not agreed to be part of?
Rafi said that we cannot rule out killing as a deterrent. If we unilaterally declare that we will not kill for any reason because we respect human life while our enemies have no hesitation in killing us, then we put ourselves in a defenseless position against them.
Mano mentioned the example of the anti abortionist who justify to himself that he needs to assassinate the doctor doing abortions in order to save the many unborn fetuses. This thinking is no different than the utilitarian or conventionalist argument of using assassination as a way of minimizing future damage to innocent victims.
Mano also feels that most of us are law abiding citizens and he theorizes that assassinations likely involve the two extreme segments of society: One segment includes those in the bottom, desperate and with nothing left to lose. The other segment is the ones in the very top, who thinks that they are either above the law or that they know better than the rest of the "little people".
This discussion reminded me of the discussion on spies and undercover policeman where they are by definition, lairs because they are hiding their true identity. They have to do it in order to deal with segments of society or foreign governments, both of which are not following the rules of the country.
With assassinations, we run into problems of which law is in force, dictators that make their own laws and abuse their citizens, other cultural or ethnic value and believe systems. There are no stardard agreed upon frame of reference to judge. So we revert back to might is right as a last resort to protect ourselves against others who are used to operating that way.
We like to be in civilized society with rules to ensure stability. However, the real world outside is anarchy if we cannot get agreement to go by the same set of rules.
Messy but that is the way it is.